Hi Jason

How can we articulate what unmet needs drive the frustration and impatience?

This is indeed an important universal question !!!!

First it is helpful to understand if unmet needs are true needs or rather just
expectations. Expectations are illusions....and everyone including the world peace community should be honest withthemsleves about this before pointing a finger
at someone else. We will all have more inner peace to share if we are clear with
ourselves on this matter. And this inner peace will offer an example that peace
is within the grasp of our global community as well as a few poets.

"Power is safest in a poet's hands, thus for the artist God will pose."
.....Hafiz ( 14th Century Persia )

miles of smiles

sl

" May your voice be loving enough to silence your own fears." ..... silent lotus
www.silentlotus.net

The "attack on one" is just the outward facing manifestation of the inner frustration and impatience. I recognize them because I have them too. What good are poets when we need decisive action, organization and leadership?! You get what I mean? :)

But I love poets and poetry.

Propeace.net was recently indicted by one of its members for complicity in the 4000 year "failure" of the peace movement. My response to this individual was that we are here and listening and quite open to considering everyone's ideas and responding to enlightened leadership. This individual's tone then softened, and the conversation moved into more productive realms.

Why am I frustrated and impatient? Because I have ideas, a feeling, a vision, a need for a better world. And that need is not being met right now. How can we help fortheplanet articulate what unmet needs drive the frustration and impatience? Can we explore ways that we can get those needs met? I'll bet there is a wealth of good stuff there.

Peace.Jason.

hey*Steve,

thank*you for these kind*words and a great*posting. What is most sad to me about the post by "fortheplanet" is that lost in the fear and need to attack what is said by others, was the reality and truth that my post "Knowing*Me, is meant to apply to each*one who may read it, and thus perhaps point out the subtle way in which society feeds off what is seen as an attack on one, which is in reality a degradation of all. For which of us has not experienced the devaluing of their efforts by another.

thanks*again

and so we continue.

BL*M
The 13-Establishments of Truth

Which of us can judge the value of another's contributions? Not all of us were cut out to be great movers and shakers, leaders of movements, or dispensers of great largesse. I heard recently that the Bill Gates Foundation is the largest philanthropic fund ever, and it is almost entirely the wealth of one individual given to the betterment of humankind.

But who is to say that Bill Gates' magnanimity is any greater a fulfillment of his potential to do good in the world than are the contributions of Bruce Larson Moore?

You and I have a great deal in common, Rainbow Brain. My trade also involves making old things, broken down things, as good as new. Better! because you know what they say: "they don't make 'em like they used to"! We are fortunate to be able to live on our skills, to have had the time, energy, resources, and good health to enjoy some of life's adventures. Many of our fellow beings are caught up in trades that have a much more harmful impact, lifestyles that offer far less enjoyment, there's no getting around it. Perhaps the most beneficial act that comes into a day for some is a kind word or a modest donation to a good cause.

Who's to say that theirs is a less worthy tithe than the benefits of my livelihood? Mahatma Gandhi encourages us that

Or as Charles Dickens put it in his "ghostly little book":

Steve

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Our lives begin to end the moment that we become silent about things that matter. (Martin Luther King Jr.)

Ok* - fortheplanet, here is the short version of My*Work.

My life’s work has been a mission to demonstrate to and help those who can not afford to pay “The Machine” you speak of, the high cost of repair and maintenance to their homes, how they to can have beauty and abundance in their lives, without the need for carrying debt.

70% of my income and time are devoted to projects which use recycled materials, are sustainable and do not take from others or adversely effect the planet.

90% of what I own is second hand or created myself from used and recycled material.

In 30 plus years of creating magic for others and myself, using less, impacting less, and costing less, I have never had a client be she a single mother, or low income family complain that my work is nonsense. In fact they usually are very grateful, using such terms as “Its a Miracle”, “Your a God Send”, “This has made such a profound difference in our lives”.

I am just a simple carpenter who lives a simple life, grows much of his own food and over the years has developed the skills and education to be self sufficient in all that I do, while offering my services to those who are most in need of them for about half the cost of what the going rates are at the time.

I have never been in debt, use only cash, carry no credit, have no need for a cell phone, work when, where and for whom I please.

Since I’ve never smoked or used any type of drug or alcohol, do not support fear, hate or anger in my life, and never get sick, I am my own Health*Plan and shall die when I die.

As for the “profound nonsense” I write, much of it comes to me while weeding the garden, especially the quotes. Personally I have always considered my writing to be mostly nonsense, and not of much interest to others. I would never have used the term “profound” to describe it.

But since you seem to be such a good authority on such matters, I will graciously accept your label, as it feels good and I like the way it sounds.

Profound*Nonsense
My life’s Work

If you have jumped to the preconception that I have not lived, because of my lack of interest in drinking, drugging and partying, you are probably right from that perspective, however I have climbed every mountain I ever desired to, ridden, sailed, paddled, flown and owned some of the coolest machines money can buy in one of the most remote areas of the world, built my own home, loved every women I’ve ever been with, traveled much of this country by motorcycle, hiked many of its wild trails, been through storms and situations that nearly took my life, and experienced death in the most personal of ways through the loss of friends and family who took the drink and drug road.

Every moment has been filled with the wonderment of living and the joy of helping others, so I have NEVER experienced boredom, which is a regret I will just have to die with.

I hope your day was filled with as much joy, peace and bliss as was mine.

BL*M
Love*Rulz - (Available on DVD ;) - @
Timeless-ink-Press.com

A disagreeable peace is far more acceptable than a disagreeable war, just as working toward peace is far more constructive than working toward war.

©Bruce Larson*Moore
The Last*War

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LABELS

Labels, labels everywhere what do they mean why should we care,
Labels are meaningless and only serve to divide us,

Labels on people labels on groups tear off the labels and unite the world into one hoop,

Labels are strong labels are unjust labels are wrong, forget them we must,

Labels to the children of the future shall be unknown if this world is to remain their home,

Ash's to ash's, dust to dust remove the labels and build upon trust.

©Bruce Larson*Moore
Love*Rulz - (Available on DVD ;) - @
Timeless-ink-Press.com

All that one sees, is that which one chooses to see.

BL*M
The 13-Establishments of Truth

The physics of creating light is a very complex problem within the simple equation of transforming matter into energy and it is of course an imperative if you are going to illuminate a world.

One is in effect pulling darkness from its own shadow, a place where it is most secure and at home.

In order for the shadows to give way to enlightenment, that which offers light must burn. It is a reality of purpose, designed to explore and experience the possibilities and relationship within the nature of function.

©Bruce Larson*Moore
Love*Rulz - (Available on DVD ;) - @
Timeless-ink-Press.com

“What is to give light must endure burning.”

— Victor Frankl

Algernonesque? ROFL! Good one, jeff!

Your post reminded me of a conversation that has been going on in my hometown (Asheville) for some time now, as a result of the City's release of a "10 Year Plan to Address Homelessness". A homeless man named Brian joined in the conversation to relate how he was threatened with arrest for holding a cardboard sign on the expressway ramp. You know the sign I mean? In Asheville, panhandling is prohibited, but Brian argued that holding a sign does not constitute panhandling. I tend to agree with him.

He brought the Mayor into the conversation, who stated that he would be better off seeking support from the various agencies in the City that already serve the homeless population. Trouble is, the City's "Ten Year" study begins by stating that the existing services are woefully inadequate.

Too-shay.

Getting back to your play on names - Alger versus Algernon. It brings home the point that, for whatever reasons, some of our fellow citizens are less able to compete for resources than others. It is very fundamental to our nation's founding principles that even these less capable citizens deserve a basic quality of life, simply by virtue of being humans. When resources are abundant, it's very easy to allow that the less capable, the less intelligent, the less ruthless (or would that be "the ruthmore"?) should be afforded shelter, clean water, a decent meal. But when resources are limited, such recognition of basic human rights demands a sacrifice on the part of those who think of themselves as more deserving because they are more capable.

So where does this fit in with peacemaking? For me, it is a constant reminder that my financial priorities - as Brian alluded to in another thread - do not serve the needs of the needy as much as they serve the greeds of the greedy. When the vast majority of my limited funds go to the mortgage company, the power company, the cable company, the oil companies, and the taxes that pay for war, what do I have left for those whom Jesus called "the least of my brethren"?

This fits right in with your question about what "work" we are doing. Certainly there is value in awareness, and awareness is served by writing and reading about problems faced by the less fortunate among us - and solutions. I hope that by raising awareness, a few people are moved to action that they otherwise might not have taken. I hope that by willingly making a sacrifice to relieve suffering, each of us may learn that suffering is a part of life, and that release from suffering comes when we allow our compassion to overwhelm our desires.

Steve

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Our lives begin to end the moment that we become silent about things that matter. (Martin Luther King Jr.)

i would love to know what "work" you have done. all i've seen so far is disagreeable (e.g. not peacefull) next to nonsense. What i keep seeing on these sites is ppl who are playing... putting up cliches, whatever they think is profound, and their freakin brains are getting bloated and sick like the machine they are discussing.
well, i'm going to have to live in a homeless shelter (again) if no one helps me get to the latest "peace festival"... because i don't serve that "algernonesque" machine ... I'd rather be gardening or eating (-:
not a mouse,
jeff :-) credit "Flowers for Algernon" ... forgetting last thinks first... its not so sad
happy happy joy joy
when we work together insted of fussin and fitin
geocities.com/forwefuture
I love ya, and i would give ya a better beer
Aloha